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		<title>Comment on Welcome to SIP Sessions by Robert Sparks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Sparks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Biyon!  
  
There are many good books and websites available to help you with learning SIP. A great place to start is the resource center at Tekelec:  
http://www.tekelec.com/resource-center/  
  
Be sure to check out the Webinars - there are several focusing on introducing SI  
P. You&#039;ll also find the SIP Pocket Guide quite useful.  
  
To start to answer your questions (you can get more detail at the link above):  
  
SIP (the Session Initiation Protocol) is the signaling protocol used to establish real-time sessions on the Internet. It provides two primary services: allowing two endpoints find each other (even when their addresses frequently change), and allowing those endpoints to negotiate how they are going to communicate.   
  
SIP runs on top of other transport protocols. Currently, there are standard defi  
nitions for using SIP on UDP, TCP, and SCTP (including protecting the SIP messages on those transports with TLS).  
  
Glad to see you joining in the SIP community. Good luck, and enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Biyon!  </p>
<p>There are many good books and websites available to help you with learning SIP. A great place to start is the resource center at Tekelec:<br />
<a href="http://www.tekelec.com/resource-center/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tekelec.com/resource-center/</a>  </p>
<p>Be sure to check out the Webinars &#8211; there are several focusing on introducing SI<br />
P. You&#8217;ll also find the SIP Pocket Guide quite useful.  </p>
<p>To start to answer your questions (you can get more detail at the link above):  </p>
<p>SIP (the Session Initiation Protocol) is the signaling protocol used to establish real-time sessions on the Internet. It provides two primary services: allowing two endpoints find each other (even when their addresses frequently change), and allowing those endpoints to negotiate how they are going to communicate.   </p>
<p>SIP runs on top of other transport protocols. Currently, there are standard defi<br />
nitions for using SIP on UDP, TCP, and SCTP (including protecting the SIP messages on those transports with TLS).  </p>
<p>Glad to see you joining in the SIP community. Good luck, and enjoy!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome to SIP Sessions by Biyon</title>
		<link>http://www.tekelec.com/tekelec-blog/index.php/2008/12/welcome-to-sip-sessions/#comment-4763</link>
		<dc:creator>Biyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robert.. how to getting started with SIP? any good tutorials for SIP? like what is SIP, whats the different between SIP in here with SIP in TCP/IP? what are advantages of SIP? in which layer is it in SS7 protocol layers? on application layer? why SIP? and so on, sorry, i&#039;m still newbie, please help..thanks a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert.. how to getting started with SIP? any good tutorials for SIP? like what is SIP, whats the different between SIP in here with SIP in TCP/IP? what are advantages of SIP? in which layer is it in SS7 protocol layers? on application layer? why SIP? and so on, sorry, i&#8217;m still newbie, please help..thanks a lot.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Architectural Options for Core SIP Signaling Networks by Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.tekelec.com/tekelec-blog/index.php/2009/04/architectural-options-for-core-sip-signaling-networks/#comment-4762</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For sure this post is good source of analysis, for my understanding, go over SIP in large scale relaying in one transport protocol will make the operator face unnecessary challenges, the aim will be always interoperability with in different vendors and content providers, so SIP is not need to relay on specific protocol, but could be oriented to need in core several interactions to end customer CPE or gateways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For sure this post is good source of analysis, for my understanding, go over SIP in large scale relaying in one transport protocol will make the operator face unnecessary challenges, the aim will be always interoperability with in different vendors and content providers, so SIP is not need to relay on specific protocol, but could be oriented to need in core several interactions to end customer CPE or gateways.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Architectural Options for Core SIP Signaling Networks by Manoj Nirania</title>
		<link>http://www.tekelec.com/tekelec-blog/index.php/2009/04/architectural-options-for-core-sip-signaling-networks/#comment-4761</link>
		<dc:creator>Manoj Nirania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cost is main challenge for operators still many operator working with TDM back born, slowly they are moving on IP to save transport cost. when ever they will move on IP, they will run on this direction to save more cost and make customer happy with more bandwidth/services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cost is main challenge for operators still many operator working with TDM back born, slowly they are moving on IP to save transport cost. when ever they will move on IP, they will run on this direction to save more cost and make customer happy with more bandwidth/services.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Architectural Options for Core SIP Signaling Networks by Brock</title>
		<link>http://www.tekelec.com/tekelec-blog/index.php/2009/04/architectural-options-for-core-sip-signaling-networks/#comment-4760</link>
		<dc:creator>Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the challenge is going to be control between the Signaling group (Currently the SS7 folks) and the IT/IP groups. My personal opinion is that the SS7/Signaling groups should control Signaling and the IP/IT folks should control Transport and Berar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the challenge is going to be control between the Signaling group (Currently the SS7 folks) and the IT/IP groups. My personal opinion is that the SS7/Signaling groups should control Signaling and the IP/IT folks should control Transport and Berar</p>
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		<title>Comment on How best to support BICC-SIP interworking? by Raphael Coeffic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raphael Coeffic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The short answer is: SIP-I would not change anything in this case.  
  
The reason is that SIP-I is targeted at bridging scenarios. In this  
context, SIP is used as a transport protocol over which ISUP (or BICC)  
signaling can be tunneled. For anything else than that, I doubt that  
the ISUP payload brings any added value.  
  
With the bridging scenario in mind, BICC only uses RTP as a  
transparent transport protocol for Iu/Nb frames, which is the main  
reason for not allowing anything else than NbFP in the codec  
description.  
  
Regarding the &#039;RTP handshake&#039;, it is related to the fact that BICC and  
SIP have different models for establishing and negotiating media  
bearer/streams.  
  
Accordingly, interworking BICC and SIP beyond bridging scenarios  
always includes some sort of translation on the user plane. Here it  
does not necessarily mean to transcode anything, but to interwork the  
different session description mechanisms.  
  
On the BICC side, most of the session description is implicit, and the  
rest is done inband. On the SIP side, everything is negotiable and has  
to be done explicitly.  
  
But back to the presented scenario: BICC to SIP interworking (not just  
trunking over SIP/SIP-I).  
  
Here I guess it would be much wiser to draw  
a clear demarcation line, instead of propagating packets designed for  
the radio interface to the outer world, and require SIP appliances to  
support Iu/Nb frames.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The short answer is: SIP-I would not change anything in this case.  </p>
<p>The reason is that SIP-I is targeted at bridging scenarios. In this<br />
context, SIP is used as a transport protocol over which ISUP (or BICC)<br />
signaling can be tunneled. For anything else than that, I doubt that<br />
the ISUP payload brings any added value.  </p>
<p>With the bridging scenario in mind, BICC only uses RTP as a<br />
transparent transport protocol for Iu/Nb frames, which is the main<br />
reason for not allowing anything else than NbFP in the codec<br />
description.  </p>
<p>Regarding the &#8216;RTP handshake&#8217;, it is related to the fact that BICC and<br />
SIP have different models for establishing and negotiating media<br />
bearer/streams.  </p>
<p>Accordingly, interworking BICC and SIP beyond bridging scenarios<br />
always includes some sort of translation on the user plane. Here it<br />
does not necessarily mean to transcode anything, but to interwork the<br />
different session description mechanisms.  </p>
<p>On the BICC side, most of the session description is implicit, and the<br />
rest is done inband. On the SIP side, everything is negotiable and has<br />
to be done explicitly.  </p>
<p>But back to the presented scenario: BICC to SIP interworking (not just<br />
trunking over SIP/SIP-I).  </p>
<p>Here I guess it would be much wiser to draw<br />
a clear demarcation line, instead of propagating packets designed for<br />
the radio interface to the outer world, and require SIP appliances to<br />
support Iu/Nb frames.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How best to support BICC-SIP interworking? by DrBoB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrBoB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the media are compatible...  
  
I am no expert in this field - but we&#039;re trying to integrate a SIP IVR with a Rel.4 network and it&#039;s proving very tricky. If you have a SIP-based system, it won&#039;t get far unless it supports half a dozen 3GPP standards, that are quite restrictive.  
  
We&#039;ve had some fun with this recently. BICC has been sending the codec 96 in the SDP and the actual codec has to be read from the BICC parameters (G.711). The 3GPP standard doesn&#039;t allow G.711 to be sent in the SDP.   
  
The system can handle reading the codec now - but we have the issue that the Rel.4 MGWs are expecting an RTP handshake with the codec 96 to start the media streams. Our off-the shelf SIP IVR doesn&#039;t do that.  
  
Is SIP-I less restrictive than this? I read that it&#039;s between nodes rather than to end-points. Does that mean that it won&#039;t allow G.711 as a codec in the SDP? Does it have a special mode of sending RTP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the media are compatible&#8230;  </p>
<p>I am no expert in this field &#8211; but we&#8217;re trying to integrate a SIP IVR with a Rel.4 network and it&#8217;s proving very tricky. If you have a SIP-based system, it won&#8217;t get far unless it supports half a dozen 3GPP standards, that are quite restrictive.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve had some fun with this recently. BICC has been sending the codec 96 in the SDP and the actual codec has to be read from the BICC parameters (G.711). The 3GPP standard doesn&#8217;t allow G.711 to be sent in the SDP.   </p>
<p>The system can handle reading the codec now &#8211; but we have the issue that the Rel.4 MGWs are expecting an RTP handshake with the codec 96 to start the media streams. Our off-the shelf SIP IVR doesn&#8217;t do that.  </p>
<p>Is SIP-I less restrictive than this? I read that it&#8217;s between nodes rather than to end-points. Does that mean that it won&#8217;t allow G.711 as a codec in the SDP? Does it have a special mode of sending RTP?</p>
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		<title>Comment on How best to support BICC-SIP interworking? by Bart</title>
		<link>http://www.tekelec.com/tekelec-blog/index.php/2009/06/how-best-to-support-bicc-sip-interworking/#comment-4756</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The majority of the Mobile carriers will not move to SIP-I soon and in our mind SIP-I to BICC will be a required niche. I am from the opinion that interworking should be built on top of your SIP-Proxy;   
  
supporting BICC-to BICC without handling user plain, BICC to SIP-I including threatment of the user plan (RTP is different in BICC) and proxying BICC to SIP-I to BICC proxy in case of cross bordering over multiple prowy hubs (and visa versa).  
  
Lets open this discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The majority of the Mobile carriers will not move to SIP-I soon and in our mind SIP-I to BICC will be a required niche. I am from the opinion that interworking should be built on top of your SIP-Proxy;   </p>
<p>supporting BICC-to BICC without handling user plain, BICC to SIP-I including threatment of the user plan (RTP is different in BICC) and proxying BICC to SIP-I to BICC proxy in case of cross bordering over multiple prowy hubs (and visa versa).  </p>
<p>Lets open this discussion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is IMS Dead? by IPlover</title>
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		<dc:creator>IPlover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wolfgang,  
  
you are naturally right, a lot of fixed operators are basing their transition strategy to all-IP networks on IMS and the will certainly be faster in deploying IMS (in its full glory) than mobile operators -whom IMS was targeting. Still, when checking the transition times of these companies we are still talking about a couple of years till they go into production 
Posted @ Monday, October 05, 2009 10:49 AM by Dorgham Sisalem 
I personally feel that it is the complexity (because it targets at achieving a wholesome architecture) of the IMS that is making the service providers lazy about implementing it fast. The providers are happy if the change is just a mile away. But, when they see it needs quite a good amount of elements involved, they are probably becoming hesitant.   
  
  
  
Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wolfgang,  </p>
<p>you are naturally right, a lot of fixed operators are basing their transition strategy to all-IP networks on IMS and the will certainly be faster in deploying IMS (in its full glory) than mobile operators -whom IMS was targeting. Still, when checking the transition times of these companies we are still talking about a couple of years till they go into production<br />
Posted @ Monday, October 05, 2009 10:49 AM by Dorgham Sisalem<br />
I personally feel that it is the complexity (because it targets at achieving a wholesome architecture) of the IMS that is making the service providers lazy about implementing it fast. The providers are happy if the change is just a mile away. But, when they see it needs quite a good amount of elements involved, they are probably becoming hesitant.   </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is IMS Dead? by Wolfgang Beck</title>
		<link>http://www.tekelec.com/tekelec-blog/index.php/2009/09/is-ims-dead/#comment-4754</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfgang Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to vendors, most telcos are currently implementing IMS in full glory right now :-)  
  
IMS is a combination of useful clarifications/additions to the IETF standards and dubious design decisions (is tying a SIP layer address to a transport-/network layer address really a sound idea?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to vendors, most telcos are currently implementing IMS in full glory right now <img src='http://www.tekelec.com/tekelec-blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>IMS is a combination of useful clarifications/additions to the IETF standards and dubious design decisions (is tying a SIP layer address to a transport-/network layer address really a sound idea?).</p>
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